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We’re just not good enough.
16 Jan 2009 at 11:52 | Posted in: General | Views: 2383 | Comments: 15
The Brits shouldn’t bother sending a team to any more major minigolf championships. Why? I hear a small disinterested voice in the back ask.

“One half of the players don’t want you here and the other half REALLY don’t want you here.” A quote from the Nations Cup in Tampere. That’s not even a major!

Because we don’t have any competition standard Swedish Felt, Beton or Eternit courses. There are no plans to build any in the UK that I’m aware of. And why on Earth would anyone build one? The public would swiftly run to the nearest adventure or crazy golf course for a decent game.

So how can we compete? We can’t. So let’s not bother. For those wanting the unique Mittel European Minigolf experience by all means play. Pay your own way and don’t expect any funding from the British Minigolf Association. And be honest you’re playing for your own reasons, full stop.

We have never sent a full strength team to any championship. In Canegrate we didn’t have a team. Why, because we didn’t have 7 players who could be bothered. Pure and Simple. For the NC in Tampere, we sent two teams – remarkable! Mainly because there were only four players in each team and less time was required. Could it be these individuals had a life! And once more we were last or thereabouts.

We, in the UK, are a small number of players. Any folly, such as sending teams to majors in the past has been an unnecessary drain on limited resources. Last or second to last doesn’t really swing it.

What do we get out of it? Not a lot. Individual players seem to view it as a way of self-aggrandizement. Very little is passed on to other players.

UK players view the World Crazy Golf Championship as more important, accessible and fun than any major in Mittel Europe.

When finally the minigolf world comes to it’s senses and MOS features in a major championship, then and only then should we send a team.
As for the Nations Cup - I love it!

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United Kingdom richthebass (Richard Hopkins) | Delete

24 Jan 2009 at 17:11
Interesting stuff!

United Kingdom Bradders (Brad Shepherd) | Delete

18 Jan 2009 at 21:52
Much as I hate to agree with anything you say Aceman, I have to agree with most of what you've said. We can't compete at the moment, so it isn't really worth sending a team to the major championships. I was glad to compete in the World and European championships, and it gave me a much better understanding of the game, however, with resources so limited I think they would be best spent strenghtening the BMGA at this stage.

United States of America Blondie (Astra Miglane Stanwyck) | Delete

16 Jan 2009 at 22:26
When it comes to MOS- US public preferres MOS over eternit and felt or concrete, it is almost impossible to sell European courses in US and public would have to be paid to play on them.

Finland HansIII (Pasi Aho) | Delete

16 Jan 2009 at 20:05
I surely belong with Viking to the fans of the conservative minigolf, but liked the times I jumped over the fence to Hastings as well. Even though Tim was there and I even have had to play with him. ;-)

Just one point is being overseen in this discussion imo. Before an international championship can be played on MOS, someone must apply for it! Awarding is based on apllications - with the small exception of YEC Södertälje, one might say (for which the whole minigolf youth is still grateful).

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16 Jan 2009 at 16:37
I can only say that I had the chance to be a coach for the UK team at the WC in Canegrate 2007 and I was very happy for that. I really appreciated their will to learn how to play on systems (concrete and eternite) that they are really not used to. Jon Angel played the UK record on eternite, 22, and beleive me Canegrate is surely not one of the easiest course in the world. So I think that this means that UK players has big potentialities, they are only very unlucky not to have any concrete/eternite/felt course where they can regularly practice on, but that doesn't absolutely mean that they SHOULD NOT take part in the major european or world competitions!

About M.O.S. system, I will get an idea the first time I will play on it...actually I haven't yet had the chance to do that...

Canada CDN (Jason Weaver) | Delete

16 Jan 2009 at 14:43
Unfortunately, (in my experience) it is far more than 0.01 %... and I can understand why it is disheartening, but I see it as fuel for the fire to prove them wrong.

Sweden Viking (Pierre Geerhold) | Delete

16 Jan 2009 at 14:32
This thing about bad comments, it makes me sad too hear that! I hope that atleast 99,99% of the players dont behave like that! Me for once loves that "smaller" minigolf countries shows up on the big championships.

United Kingdom AceMan (Tim Davies) | Delete

16 Jan 2009 at 14:20
Hey Jay
I only speak for myself, no one else. If Brits want to go, I have no problem with that. Looking forward to seeing you in the UK.

Netherlands Tiek (Erik Tiekstra) | Delete

16 Jan 2009 at 14:15
One more thing about the comments... I've personally not heard them in any way. I also don't know who you are talking about, and I don't care really. But if that is the case it is just ridiculous, because it is good for the sports to see "smaller" minigolf countries trying to get on top. A lot of years you've seen the same with the Latvians, Hungarians. Right now there are some really good players from those countries.

Hopefully we still see you at some international tournaments, and I am sure there are more people willing to help you guys then giving bad comments!

Canada CDN (Jason Weaver) | Delete

16 Jan 2009 at 14:08
Interesting take Tim. Shame we won't be seeing you guys at the big International Tournies anymore. I know what you mean about the insulting comments but I intend on showing that new players from other nations can play, regardless what the playing surface is. That being said, I'll have to get myself over to the UK to play asap. Cheers!
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