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Sweden bans Gentleman and Cradle with green


Sweden 15 May 2009 at 20:19 | Published by: JJM | Views: 4276 | News search

Sweden bans Gentleman and Cradle with green
Felt lanes which cannot have a green in Sweden any more.  (Photo by John Mittler 2009)

Swedish Minigolf Federation has banned felt lanes “Gentleman” and “Cradle” if they include a green. If competitions are played at minigolf courses where these lane types have a green, the green must be closed from use. This new rule took effect on 15 April 2009, and it applies to all national competitions in Sweden.

The purpose of the rule is to remove luck factors from minigolf lane types, so that minigolf will be more purely a sport based on skill and not luck. Swedish minigolf leaders believe that Cradle and Gentleman are lane types where a green does not add any skill factors to the game, but instead it adds luck factors, as the players cannot control how the ball will behave on the green.

However, Sweden did not ban the green from other felt lanes with a high hill, such as Coin Slot (Örkelljunga), Mailbox or Trapdoor. Also on these lane types the players have very little chances to control the ball on the green, but some Swedish minigolf experts defend the right to have a green on these lane types, because having a green can add skill factors to the game, as some top players will choose a faster and more difficult ball, to increase their statistical chances of getting a hole-in-one on the green.

Also the hill lanes of beton courses were left untouched by this new rule. Lanes 3 and 4 of beton courses are sometimes criticized as including obvious luck factors, as the players cannot much control how the ball will behave on the green.

Swedish Minigolf Federation is planning to promote these new felt rules to WMF and to other countries. WMF seeks to harmonize the rules of minigolf in all countries, so that all national competitions would be played with international WMF rules. But in reality, many countries are developing some own rules independently from WMF, including top countries such as Sweden.

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Finland JJM (John Mittler)

16 May 2009 at 08:00
The new Swedish rules say that a ball stopping on the plateau of Cradle, or on the obstacle of Gentleman, is counted as in the hole. (We have this same interpretation in Finland, and I think it is fair for the players, it removes some very strange bad-luck situations.)

"Boll som ligger på toppen av vaggan men inte ramlat ner i hålet (ifall sådant finns) räknas som att ligga i målområdet."

"Boll som ligger på spetsen av bågen ska räknas som att den ligger i målområdet."

The same problem exists on lane 7 of beton courses, if the green is shaped like a funnel, so that it nearly always sucks the ball to hole, but some players have bad luck and the ball gets stuck somewhere on the green. I call it a "Russian roulette".

Sweden G (Robert Gustavsson)

16 May 2009 at 00:14
When we discussed those new rules on the Swedish bangolfsnack site we also thought that they were made based on the luck-factor. But someone said that they were not. Instead they were based on some special situations that sometimes happens on those two lanes, when for instance the ball stops up in the cradle and doesnt drop down in the green. Then it shouldnt count as in green because it hasnt passed the "red" marking (passingline) since the "red" marking is in the hillhole or sits just before the green. And that if u remove the green, u can count those odd balls that stops up in the hill as in the hole...
Which one is true? Can someone clear this out?

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