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Olsson & Ryner win Eskilstuna Marathon

Sweden 05 Apr 2009 at 15:38 | Published by: JJM | Views: 6636 | News search

Olsson & Ryner win Eskilstuna Marathon
Carl-Johan Ryner at window, Sandra Weaver at labyrinth.  (Photo by EBGS webcam 2009)

The traditional winners of Eskilstuna Marathon, Lars Brown & Peter Samuelsson, played a blue total score, as they have done every year since 2007. But this year it was not enough to come anywhere near victory, as Anders Olsson and Carl-Johan Ryner showed why they have dominated minigolf world rankings during this decade. With team average 18.96, Olsson & Ryner left Brown & Samuelsson to second place with a margin of 14 points.

The best player of the competition was Lars Brown, however, with average 18.86. His historically solid set of 14 rounds included only one non-blue round: 19 21 19 18 18 19 19 18 18 19 19 19 19 19. Brown’s last 12 rounds might the longest row of blue rounds (under 20 points) in the history of eternite competitions anywhere in the world.

Anders Olsson was second best player, scoring 13 rounds with average 18.92. His pair Carl-Johan Ryner scored one point more in 13 rounds, with average 19.00. (Ryner gave some handicap to the other players, by playing the extremely tight labyrinth straight, without using the wall shot, which gives a greater margin for error. Ryner missed the straight shot twice, which cost him the title of best player of the competition.)

Hans Olofsson & Alf Pettersson were third in the competition, with team average 20.19. Olofsson was the fourth best player of the tournament, with personal average 19.91.

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Sweden Viking (Pierre Geerhold)

09 Apr 2009 at 18:24
The reason i play wallshot is that i cant hit the ball straight forward lol. Jokes aside, the lab in Munktell is not easy. I am not a great player but atleast i am descent (sometimes). I hade a 7 on lab one round and atleast 4 shots had identical wall hits but i missed both 10cm left and 10cm right of the target. Why didnt i play straight? Read earlier in this post, i simply cant!

Austria bub74 (Markus Berger)

07 Apr 2009 at 12:18
Nice attidude Haazeman! (I like that thinking)
but I am wondering that nobody is mentioning "the real" reasons why to play wall shots. (At least on some labys or beton 18)
Maybe I should sell my knowledge about that. Any bids ...

Sweden Haazeman (Hans  Olofsson)

07 Apr 2009 at 11:32
At the Swedish National Championships in 2001 on eternit I alternated, playing straight and wall shot every other round.

Worked well and it was supposed to keep my focus since the labyrinth was quite easy.......

Finland JJM (John Mittler)

07 Apr 2009 at 06:23
A well-known example of wall shot vs. straight shot is Finnish junior star Aki Sillman. He always played the labyrinth straight, and typically lost many points to other juniors on this lane, in every competition.

Then came a big man, juniors national team coach Timo Metsäranta, and forced him to play the wall shot at Budapest World Champs 2008. Aki has been playing averages near 1.00 at labyrinth ever since.

I sometimes play the straight shot in less important competitions (hmm... this includes national championships 2005 & 2008), simply to test how my playing technique is working.

Sweden Lurre (Lukas Oja)

06 Apr 2009 at 22:41
Wallshot or straight? I believe that its all in your mind that controls it.. Once you start with wallshot you are stuck with it? For my own sake I find it easier to play a straight shot rather than calle said, a precision shot combined with good feeling..

Also, congratulations Calle and Anders, very nice played!! Also congratulations to Lars to the impressive 67 aces in a row.

Canada CDN (Jason Weaver)

06 Apr 2009 at 17:47
Oh, the generalizations abound here John. If all lane types where exactly the same everywhere, then there would be no need for finding playing lines or playing tips. Some labys and lane 18s on concrete can NOT be played with a wall shot. We just happen one of each in Askim. ;) Should we start playing wall shots just because stats show it CAN be better at certain course? Even though the ball often jumps out with wall shots? I think that many people that have actually played Munktell would agree that the laby is a little special and not so easy (even with a good wall shot).

Finland JJM (John Mittler)

06 Apr 2009 at 16:30
Many players (and team coaches) have the experience that the wall shot in laby or beton 18 usually gives average score 1.00 - 1.20, but the straight shot can give 1.00 - 2.00 or even more. This is statistics from scorecards of players in competitions.

Sweden C-J (Carl-Johan Ryner)

06 Apr 2009 at 15:47
With the wall shot some more aspects come into play. With which speed do you play your shot, do you hit the ball cleanly or not. I have seen shots in MunktellArenan hit the exact same spot on the wall and missed on different side on the opening.
Over the years I have played one competition with a wall shot on a labyrinth (EC in Bratislava, 1 miss), but you never know when it might happen again. :)
At the moment I'm to tired to understand and reason with the mathematics, but I find it hard to believe that the difference is that great. If so no one would ever miss a wall shot and a lot of players certainly missed this weekend.

Sweden larzza (Lars Brown)

06 Apr 2009 at 13:46
Congrats Anders and CJ!

@Flow, this might give you a better picture of what MunktellArena looks like:
it's a video of me playing the 18 lanes filmed by Arne Spångtorp.

Finland JJM (John Mittler)

06 Apr 2009 at 11:57
Munktell Arena is the place where Swedish players reach their full potential. After years of monthly winter competitions on the indoor felt and eternite courses.

I wonder how much greater the margin for error is in the wall shot, exactly. If the ball comes to wall at 45 degrees angle, and leaves the wall at 22,5 degrees angle (50% of the coming angle), the angle of ball is split to 50% of original angle in the wall hit. Also any mistakes in direction are split 50% of the original shot direction, so the margin for error should be 200% compared to straight shot, twice easier. Many factors affect this situation, like temperature of ball, weather changing the friction, and possible quality problems in the wall, but generally I would guess that with good coaching, the wall shot gives 50%... 100% more margin for error compared to straight shot.

Of course it can be more comfortable to aim straight according to the black line, than diagonally according to some vague aiming marks. For many players it is psychologically easier to aim vaguely "somewhere" than looking directly to the hole.

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Marathon in MunktellArena

Sweden 04 Apr 2009 at 10:19 | views: 5412 | Comments: 2

Today the annual 24h marathon in MunktellArenan in Eskilstuna starts, at 11am. As usual, the winners of the last years, Peter Samuelsson/Lars Brown from Uppsala BGK are favourites. However, this year they meet a tough challenge, as C-J Ryner plays together with ...
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World 03 Apr 2009 at 07:40 | views: 5008 | Comments: 0

The Olympic SportAccord federation (formerly known as GAISF / AGFIS) accepted International Golf Federation as a new member, on 27 March 2009. This was a necessary step for golf federation, as it wishes to join the Olympic Games in 2016. The massive Olympic PR ...
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Italy 02 Apr 2009 at 14:32 | views: 5310 | Comments: 0

Italian minigolf federation (FIGSP) technical committee has announced the composition of the 2009 national teams' staff. Head responsibles for all national teams are: Claudio Santopietro, FIGSP Sport Director Alberto Pirovano, coordinator Italian national ...
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Portugal 02 Apr 2009 at 07:23 | views: 5218 | Comments: 3

Nuno Cunha gives information from Portugal: Portuguese individual championships 2009 are decided by the sum of 18 rounds in three competition weekends (6 rounds on each weekend), in three different cities, on two playing systems (beton and eternite). The ...
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