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The Lanes for the KO-finals are selected
27 Aug 2010 at 18:34 | Published by: Hans | Views: 7751 | News search 
 The Jury of the Predazzo European Championships have selected the following lanes to be played in the KO-finals tomorrow.
Eternit:
- Salto
- Sticks
- Kidneys
- Double Waves
- Bridge
- Window
- Passages
- Central Hill
- Straight with window
Beton:
- 1
- 2
- 5
- 12
- 13
- 14
- 15
- 17
- 18
The only lane where the jury made an exception to the rules where lane 4 on Beton. That lane was excluded and instead the number 15 was included.
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Comments (19)
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 JJM (John Mittler) |
28 Aug 2010 at 19:42 | The cup system was not invented to get the best player on the gold podium. Discussion about that is quite unnecessary, it is not the reason why WMF wanted to use cup system.
The reason was that minigolf has not been interesting for the big media as strokeplay, so some WMF leaders spoke big enthusiastic words in 2007 about minigolf getting attention of the big media, if it is played as thrilling cup system. No matter who wins it, the best or the worst.
Well these dreams have been proven unfounded many times already, the big media is not interested in anything else than World Crazy Golf Championships in Hastings. So we could quit this clown circus and go back to serious sport where the best player wins. Back to the basics: stop playing merry-go-round among European countries, and put serious attention on global growth of the sport to new countries and continents. |
 AS (André Silva) |
28 Aug 2010 at 19:11 | | Congratulations to Erik and Rebbeca for their titles despite all these comments. In the case of Erik he not only won the final match, but he also have beaten Harald by a large margin, and that's some achievment. |
AS (André Silva) |
28 Aug 2010 at 19:07 | | I'm not very keen on the cup system either but if it has to be, I would think that it should be on, at least, 36 lanes. You don't see a champion in tennis playing only one set. Only 18 lanes leaves too much room to luck. |
 C-J (Carl-Johan Ryner) |
28 Aug 2010 at 18:27 | It's never a bad player that wins in the end, but I don't think that Erik would have won in the traditional way since he was 18 strokes behind with four rounds to play.
If we shall keep the cup, then it should be over all 36 holes and with 16 players in the men's competition and 8 in the women's. |
JJM (John Mittler) |
28 Aug 2010 at 17:57 | Felt is the most athletic form of minigolf, also in other ways than minimal role of coaching. You must hit the ball harder, so you need a bit more acrobatic talent to stay carefully balanced during the swing.
Adventure glf with a golf ball is the purest form of minigolf in a different sense, the golf ball is weather resistant so there is really no coaching of any kind involved. Some felt lanes are coaching-intensive, for example the corner. |
 gregisback (Gregoire Mangier) |
28 Aug 2010 at 17:28 | I understand the CJ Ryner's opinion but you don't think by the way, the good-players wins at the end ? Unfortunetly it's a strange system for the top-players, the ones who finnish at the rank like 1st to 9th (ex super final) but I see the system and finnaly, all the german, the austrian, the swedish, the swiss (with some exceptions) are in the final table.
I find it's a system hard to the best players but strangely, not to the good players. For the others players, it's a little bit different : before, we can hoped to be in final but now it's more difficult. So, I'm interesting by this question : the difference between the coach for the top players and the good players and the part of them in the score's difference.
That's why, I think felt court is bassicaly the best to see the top players and after 20 years of minigolf, all the EC or WC I had seen or played, I find the difference it's much less bigger that on eternit or concrete (more "pure" game, less coach's work).
So, is there an ideal system to crown a champion ? I don't know...
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 Austria (Rastislav Pomsahar) |
28 Aug 2010 at 17:12 | guys, I have to admit I have no idea about the pressure in that specific moment, but, honestly...
how immense can this pressure be when the last WC and EC were decided with a margin of much more than 10 strokes?...
of course you have to separate the whole thing, but for the fact that individuals have to qualify for the final in the first days either way it makes not that much difference to a "man of no idea about it" :)
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jnabais (João Nabais) |
28 Aug 2010 at 16:35 | i´m agree whit CJ Ryner... it´s very dificult separate the team scores and the individual scores, and the last player of the team has much more presure than the 3º,4º palyer and is not fair for the competition.
For me the KO system is not a good system to certify the better minigolf palyer of the year, or the even in national competitons.
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C-J (Carl-Johan Ryner) |
28 Aug 2010 at 15:53 | I'm referring to the system with the player with the least strokes after four days of play (10-12 rounds) should win. The problem I have with two champions is maybe more in the way the stroke champion would be crowned; that being after three days of team play. We could have two days team competition, one day with stroke champion (where the team rounds count also) and then the final day with cup based on the strokes.
If we had a stroke champion after the three team days, it would be almost impossible to focus on the individual play. It could end up in a situation where you have your teammate playing last in the team and he needs to ace the last lane for the team to win, but if he misses you win the individual gold. Not a good situation. |
Austria (Rastislav Pomsahar) |
28 Aug 2010 at 15:34 | :)
are you going to start one?
or will you share your opinion upon that here too?
I was just thinking about it and I just do not see the point.
take skiing as an example:
there you have a champion in downhill, one in slalom as well as (maybe another one) in combined.
every one of them stands alone for his/her achievement.
so why not in minigolf too?
I think - not knowing which system you refer to - that the one with the least strokes after three days deserves it the same way as the match play champ who has to defeat anyone in his/her way.
nevertheless I believe that the sense of the game would not change as the skills of the individual player always will decide wheather he'll make the podium or not :)
and... of course... sometimes a little bit of luck helps for sure too. |
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